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Rich.

This is just one of several of these products, but this must be the best engineered. There is another product that is being used in the trucking industry to improve fuel mileage and cut emissoins. This product is expensive but is being used by several companies. The above video is extremely interesting as if you are welding or cutting metal you are all ready using some type of other energy source (gas/electric) to do this now this guy comes along with a machine makes getting hot gases from water now that is interesting.

I firmly believe that someone is going to step up and make oil a secondary power source and that ok with me. It just can’t happen to soon. I only wish that Bush would make that a national priority, but they are doing a lot of research in this area, but with very little fan fare.

buck

It’s must be real technology … just using electrical energy (producing somehow) to break hydrogen loose from H2O or whatever is great but according to what I understand of Physics, there is inefficiency in the process that is lost in the form of heat and unable to be converted to mechanical energy.

This is not to say that we can’t come up with something more efficient than today’s ICE, but I’m not sure running the ‘gas’ hydrogen in a ICE is the most promising option? We’ll see. Thanks for the comment Buck.

There is a school of thought about using wind turbines to generate DC for such conversion in Southwest Kansas… the reason being the significant number of existing natural gas pipelines that are currently supporting the (depleting) Hugoton natural gas field.

Map of pipelines: http://images.pennnet.com/mapsearch/natgas_pipe.jpg

TomZ,
Very interesting; if you hear anymore on the project in Kansas be sure to drop me a line.

Also thanks for the ‘map’ link … its as complex as a spider’s web.
RichC

Just curious to what happened to Kenny Cline @ Hydrogen Technologies, of Clearwater FL ,and the patents for the HHO water fuel conversion processes? Any news?

It’s just a concept at this time…

The current projects are wind turbines for AC. A new wind farm is being constructed near Spearville Kansas. 60+ towers generating just over 120 megaWatts.

It’s just a concept at this time…

The current projects are wind turbines for AC. A new wind farm is being constructed near Spearville Kansas. 60+ towers generating just over 120 megaWatts.

Hi I own a radio station, which broadcasts world wide, and I have some of the best pannel shop and engineering shop owners in Australia interested in becoming agents for the distribution and sales of the welding machine. How do I contact Mr Cline and or his agent in order to discuss an agency?

I have hope for the future. Not because of our corrupt goverment, but in hopes that Mr. Klein will not sell out to the government, specifically speaking; the automotive and oil industry. I have hopes that he will not be “removed” by these billion dollar industries because they are threatened.

The government, industry and people of the world always talk about the future and how fossil fuels will eventually be nonexistent. Patents are purchased from inventors for millions and just “shelf” them and the inventors move on and keep quiet which is probably part of the agreement between the buyer and inventor.

Vehicles can be made to get 60 or 80 miles to the gallon and they don’t make them, yet we are running out of fuel and natural resources. I wish Mr. Klein the best in this and I hope that in the near future, people think the same. The more that know about Mr. Klein’s invention, the better. I hope that the government will allow him to mass produce this and share it with the world if he so desires to do so.

People are saying that it takes more energy to produce the HHO gas than the energy that you get back from the combustion of the fuel…SO?

Are we forgetting exactly what fuel we are putting in ?

WATER people !…plain old distilled WATER

Unlimited supply of fuel = No more WARS for fossil fuel
Clean source of fuel = Less harm to our one and only planet

That sounds like wo effecient formulas to me?

You go Mr. Klein
You have my support

Check Wikipedia- taking water and putting energy into to breaking down into gas and then recombining (or burning) is a full circle that doesn’t produce net excess energy. While I like the idea of burning water, if someone can explain how this can really work from a scientific perspective (i.e. thermodynamics- violates “1st law”), would help. A system that produces gas for welding/cutting from water and other inputs is one thing- running cards from water/air inputs alone is something else.

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fuel_cell

But.. the site/latest video does help explain more- not a simple H20 split recombination with no net gain.

http://hytechapps.com/company/press

Perhaps this website will help you a bit. The documents are there in .pdf files for download, along with two videos.

http://waterpoweredcar.com/stanmeyer.html

Take care.

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Of course, any energy used on Earth seems to need to be replaced, but this is not really the case. The net gain comes from the sun. All our energy directly or indirectly comes from the sun, be it fossilized hydrocarbons from ancient plant material, ethanol from growing plants, wind created by unequal heating of the planet’s surface, or directly from the sun through solar panels.

By using windmills or solar energy, new energy is gathered directly from the sun itself. It will be burning for quite some time, and is, essentially for all reasonable purposes an unlimited source of power. Or even from hydroelectric power.

Water is broken down to create hydrogen and the used fuel becomes water. The mass is preserved, and the energy gain is acquired from the sun’s rays.

Unless he is using an exotic catalyst (some Galladium alloy for example) you cant gain any energy from this. The only other consideration is if he “stumbled” upon some structural lattice which itself stored energy and was created naturally through the process.
You guys misunderstand when you say its “just water”. The energy REQUIRED to break H2O into Hydrogen and Oxygen Gas will be the same energy you get out of the reaction when it is burned and produces H2O) in the end. .. at best you will lose a little to due heat (cant fight thermodynamics)
NOW the exception would be a catalyst as I mentioned above.. or a peculiar reaction that creates some unknown structure (as he claims).
Does anyone have any insight into either??

do you know his Email or phone number i would like to talk to him about some stuff

Sorry Hayden I don’t have that information.