Edmonds.com on 2008 VW diesels

Posted By on June 28, 2006

vw logoAn article in Edmonds.com tickled some Volkswagen diesel lovers with new information on the 2008 VW common-rail diesels. As most VW TDI (diesel) fans know, Volkswagen will not be producing a 2007 diesel model for North American. (link) Although they have dropped the Jetta and New Beetle TDIs for 2007, the article is encouraging for 2008 model year since an all-new common-rail diesel is planned. VW intends to use the new 2.0-liter diesel engine which is estimated to produce 140 horsepower and over 200 pound-feet of torque. The change from TDI Pumpe-Duse technology is necessary to meet tougher U.S. regulations. Who knows … it might be a change worth waiting for?

Comments

  • Seems a bit counterintuitive to go back to common rail design, doesn’t it? I thought having a pump on each cylinder gave them greater pressure per injector, a finer ‘misting’ of the injection into the cylinder, and overall better control. Still, I’ll be happy if upcoming years cut down the particulate emissions. (not that I’ll trade in my ’06 Jetta TDI any time soon…)

    My wife wants them to make a TDI van/minivan. 🙂 About 2008 would be perfect timing.

  • cars wanted

    Certainly a pump on each cylinder will give the highest attainable pressure, but only at high engine speeds. A common-rail design, while having less peak pressure than VW’s current TDI, maintains that pressure over a much wider range of engine speeds. (At low engine speeds, a common-rail design can have more injection pressure than a current TDI.)

  • Mike

    I sell VWs and the TDI going away is going to hurt my wallet

  • Hey Im a traveling photographer and I currently run a 92 diesel. Do you know what the fuel consumption is going to be with this new model?

  • Nothing available from my reading or sources … stay tuned and thanks for the comment James.

  • Maggie

    I know next to nothing about cars except that I want to be more evironmentally friendly. What about the New Beetle Convertible? Are there plans for a diesel engine in that? That is really what I am waiting for. Also, If I want to custom order a car from vw, do they do that? Because if I can, then I want a NBC with a diesel engine!!!! In my heart, I want to be a modern eco-yuppie…driving a NBC with my flower in the bud vase and my car smelling like french fries. Again, I know nothing about cars so please don’t anyone pick on me! Thanks, Maggie

  • Doubtful you’ll see the clean diesel “Convertible” in the near future. I’d be on the lookout for the New TDI Jetta (2008) and think it will beat the 2007 World Green Car of they Year … the Mercedes Benz E320 BlueTec Diesel. See: http://blog.myarchive.us/?p=763

  • Tim

    I live in a small village 77 kilometers from Wiesbaden, Germany (where I work). I drive a EU spec 2006 VW Golf five door, 2.0 TDI (140 PS) with a DSG transmission. My car was built in Belgium, just as the US models will be. There will be a slight difference in weight due to the fact that each of our countries require different lighting, glass, interior materials, and exhaust/exhaust treatments for TDI engines. I have to run through several small villages to get to the autobahn (13kms), which takes me to within a couple of kilometers of my workplace. I drive at the speed limits (30-60MPH) to get to the autobahn, then at the equivilent of 110-120MPH while on the autobahn. I consistently make between 48 and 52 MPG between fillings.

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  • Donan Iacovone

    Maggie,

    I would search biodiesel.org to find out if there are any available retail pumps near your home. If so, I would recommend a good used diesel New Beetle (I own a 2004 and love it, getting an average of slightly over 50 mpg) and fill up with biodiesel. B100 is pure veggie oil and has zero emissions. B20 is 80% diesel and 20% veggie oil and thus has 80% of normal diesel emissions. VW has announced ‘clean’ diesel plans for the Jetta, Jetta Wagon, Toureg, Rabbit and Tiguan. I would hope that they plan on returning a diesel engine to the New Beetle for 2009 model year but as of yet have no word from VW on that.

  • note: TDI VW EOS convertible:
    http://blog.myarchive.us/?p=845

  • Brian

    What VW models can I buy soon in California, with the new clean diesel engine, and will there be any automatics available?

  • The Jetta and maybe Sportwagen in the spring of 2008 from what I’ve been told. No promises …

  • What’s the latest timing for a California VW TDI, and does anyone know the expcted fuel efficiency?

    30Aug07

  • Alex Traverso

    I own a 2006 Jetta TDI. I also own a 1996 Mercedes E300 diesel (non turbo unfortunately). When I bought the Jetta, last year I was gettin about 42 mpgs in the city and about 50/55 in the highway. The 50/55 depended on how fast i drove in the hywy. My Mbz , always, for the six years I owned it, never, ever gave me less than 26 mpgs, (in the city), 32 /34 in th hywy. In october last year they changed the fuel to ULSD, here in Arizona, I guess as the rest of the nation. Correct?. Well, I’m really upset, because my Jetta now gets me only 32 mpgs in the city and no more than 42 mpgs in the hywy. My Mbz? I cannot get anything above 22. No matter city or hywy driving.
    I took the Jetta to the VW people, I figure something is up, maybe the air filter clogged, or whatever. I told them to check it out. Nothing is wrong with it. They said that the diesel at the pump is the problem. The ULSD is going eventually to ruin my injection. And some how the formulation of the diesel now is different and is affecting all the cars.
    Last week I filled the tank with biodiesel B99, not B100. The manager at the distributor said that AZ does not let them sell B100,????!!!!. Whatever that means!!!. I have a receipt to prove it, it’s written right on it. I think that the refinery that is making the Bio is putting something else in it that makes the Bio less efficient, (some kind of alcohol?) . I also noted lack of acceleration in the Jetta as well along with more engine noise.When I first bought the car it used to lay rubber even if I didn’t want to and it was quiet as a mouse. Now it lost the pep it used to have. I only have 17000 miles in the car, what should I do?Any suggestions?.
    Ps: If you could e mail me directly, I really appreciate it. Thanks alex.

  • Alex,
    Sent you an email …

  • luke

    I have heard rumors of the 2008 Jetta Wagon TDI ( or Golf Variant ) being availbe for purchase in January. I have also heard rumors of VW scraping the idea altogether. Is there any way to get deffinative proof here?

  • Talked with a dealership yesterday that they were taking orders for March delivery. (but the date isn’t a guarantee) As for ‘scraping altogether … haven’t heard that?

  • luke

    I have talked with several dealers as well. I live in PHX, AZ and many dealers are saying that it is too expensive for VW to build a TDI that is in compliance with all 50 states. I

  • “I own a 2006 Jetta TDI. I also own a 1996 Mercedes E300 diesel (non turbo unfortunately). When I bought the Jetta, last year I was gettin about 42 mpgs in the city and about 50/55 in the highway. The 50/55 depended on how fast i drove in the hywy. My Mbz , always, for the six years I owned it, never, ever gave me less than 26 mpgs, (in the city), 32 /34 in th hywy. In october last year they changed the fuel to ULSD, here in Arizona, I guess as the rest of the nation. Correct?. Well, I’m really upset, because my Jetta now gets me only 32 mpgs in the city and no more than 42 mpgs in the hywy. My Mbz? I cannot get anything above 22. No matter city or hywy driving.
    I took the Jetta to the VW people, I figure something is up, maybe the air filter clogged, or whatever. I told them to check it out. Nothing is wrong with it. They said that the diesel at the pump is the problem. The ULSD is going eventually to ruin my injection. And some how the formulation of the diesel now is different and is affecting all the cars.
    Last week I filled the tank with biodiesel B99, not B100. The manager at the distributor said that AZ does not let them sell B100,????!!!!. Whatever that means!!!. I have a receipt to prove it, it’s written right on it. I think that the refinery that is making the Bio is putting something else in it that makes the Bio less efficient, (some kind of alcohol?) . I also noted lack of acceleration in the Jetta as well along with more engine noise.When I first bought the car it used to lay rubber even if I didn’t want to and it was quiet as a mouse. Now it lost the pep it used to have. I only have 17000 miles in the car, what should I do?Any suggestions?.
    Ps: If you could e mail me directly, I really appreciate it. Thanks alex”

    this letter was written by somebody else but i also very interest to know what cause to decrease fuel mileage. can you send me the answer as well, and how to fix it cause all but except this owner have rated on the tdi about 45 to 55 mile per gallons…
    thanks big time…..!!! adam.. 🙂

  • Sam Calvin

    Where can I order for delivery in Germany April 2008, a VW Jetta sedan 2008 tdi. Plan to use it there for three months and ship to Florida.

    Thanks …Sam

  • Sam,

    I really can’t help you with this question, but if you figure out how to pick up a diesel in Germany and import it affordably to the U.S. please let us know. With exchange rates, shipping and emissions this sounds like something more that most of us would want to tackle.

  • Maybe we all do not need the details of your answer regarding the possibility that different diesel/biodiesel mix in Arizona (and elsewhere?) greatly reduces mileage and greatly increases noise. However, I also want to read the answer. I know there are a lot of us who want to get the great mileage they get in Germany (without buying two-engined hybrids). I’d buy one this week, if there was a good competition with the gasoline subcompacts. If private emails are all you want to use on this answer, please send it to me.

    Thanks for your attention to this important topic!

  • Richard Lee

    Mr. Sam,
    I own a 2000 jetta tdi and a 2001 Ford F350(single wheel) 4×4, crew cab, lariet, with a 7.3 Power Stroke diesel. First question, how do I contact VW of Germany direct? Reason being is this past spring I had back surgery in Bremen, Germany. Almost every VW was diesel powered, along with every make and model sold here, even the American cars had diesels. It made me sick to see new and classic Toyota cars and trucks with diesels. I would like to order a new VW directly, maybe one that is not offered here. I know Volvo had a television commercial offering free round trip air tickets to Sweden if you bought a Volvo from the factory. You could pick up your new car and drive it around Eourpe, return it to Volvo, fly home, and they would ship your car to a dealer of your choice.
    Second question, do you know of any company that builds a two speed rear end for my truck? Or maybe a company that builds an overdrive kit for the transmission? Reason I’m asking is on an un-congested interstate I drive 80 to 100mph. At 70mph she turns 2100 rpm’s. I would love to run 85 mph at 2100 rpm’s (naturally I would not be pulling any load at high speed, this would only be used with no load or trailer towing).
    One more thing, while in Germany I observed many “Smart” cars with diesels. I checked and there will not be any diesel “Smart” cars offered here, #*^* IT, WHY NOT. If you can answer my questions please respond.
    Kind Regards, Richard

  • Al Pollock

    I too have experienced the drop in MPG with my 2002 VW Gulf TDI. I was reading Alex Traverso ‘s post and I wonder what you replied to him ,if you could do the same for me it would be appreciated…

    Thanks Al

  • Al,
    I don’t recall exactly what I mentioned to Alex, but probably addressed a couple issues. If you are referencing your MPG drop, I would first be sure you have determined that you VW TDI is running well. Simple items to check would be the air filter and snorkel snowscreen. (often very plugged) If you’ve never cleaned your intake manifold, that might also be something to take a look at as it is often choked with ‘gunk’ build-up from hot gases recirculated through the EGR and CCV oil film.
    See video DVD http://www.cincitdi.com/richc
    As for running ULSD, there might be a slight drop just as there is when ‘winter blend’ diesel is being used … but I personally found it not much more than a couple MPGs. Same for higher blends of biodiesel … a slight drop in economy, but personally speaking it was difficult for me to really measure. I ran primarily a ULSD/Biodiesel blend at 20% (B20) and regularly averaged 44-45 MPG on m 2003 VW Jetta 5sp. (chipped with a Rocketchip3 and upsized injectors)
    I’ll look for something other than fuel.
    RichC

  • Sai

    Hi

    In India we get VW Phaeton v8 but i want dream car VW Phaeton W12 customized can i order directly from VW germany.Please help me out giving the contact of VW germany

  • W12 Phaeton would be nice … although I kind of like the TDI version:
    http://www.worldcarfans.com/2040824.003/1.html

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