The Jeep Liberty CRD is Dead

Posted By on June 7, 2006

Jeep Libery CRDI just drove the Jeep Liberty diesel (again) last week and was planning to make some comments on the vehicle … unfortunately a blog post in AutoBlogGreen mentioned that the Detroit News indicated Daimler Chrysler would be killing the CRD. According to the articles, the new tougher federal emissions standards coming next year make it difficult to meet with the existing engine … and Chrysler doesn’t want to put a new engine in the Liberty. Another bullet in the “kill the diesels” just as the newer clean fuels find their way to market. (ULSD and Biodiesel) Its tough loving the EPA and federal standards when they take all our diesel cars away! (see the “No VW TDIs for 2007” post)

I’ll post the short Motorweek long term road test of the Jeep Liberty below … 28 mpg highway … nothing to sneeze at for a ‘Trail-rated” 4 x 4, but it could have been better.


Jeep Liberty CRD Long Term Road Test

Comments

  • Randy

    Way to go EPA! Let’s become more reliant on oil. Just another reason to get the vote out & displace every single politician.

  • It does make you wonder what we pay taxes for ? We borrow from the future, restrict adding petroleum capacity, tighten emission standards that squeeze out the most efficient vehicles and raise speed limits (Texas) … all while talking about our oil addiction, the reliance on foreign oil and the price of fuel? I wish the politicians would get on the same page.

    • Jason Carpp

      I totally agree. Is the EPA really trying to reduce carbon emissions, or are they simply trying to limit diesel to heavy grade trucks like the Ford F350 and heavier, the Dodge Ram D350 and heavier, the Chevrolet/GMC Duramax Diesel? Why would they allow such vehicles with diesel engine, but not smaller vehicles? That doesn’t make sense.

  • Hey man, I have some cool info on the Jeep CRD. Interestingly enough, every jeep made has a CRD engine in it in the UK. For the link, see the following:

    http://jeepcrd.blogspot.com/

    The Patriot has a 2.0 CRD and it gets up to 50 mpg!

  • Jason Carpp

    It’s so unforgiveable that the USEPA would impose such unrealistic emissions cars, trucks, on anything that runs. What are they trying to do, *eliminate* emissions altogether? Unless we decide to walk or ride a bicycle where we go, I don’t see that ever happening.

    • Certainly agree with you that some of the onerous regulations are making it challenging to build compliant vehicle and I wouldn’t be surprise to if the motivation is to deter driving and encourage denser population centers.

      It is interesting to see a post from 2006 is still being found. Thanks for leaving a comment. 🙂

      • Jason Carpp

        You’re welcome. I’ve been interested in the Jeep Liberty CRD Diesel from the time it first came on the market. I want to breath clean air as much as most people, but I’m not a big fan of the hybrid/electric or even fully electric cars that are on the market. I’m not against hybrid technology for cars and trucks, but I’ve never liked the choices that are available. If a diesel/electric hybrid truck, SUV or van were available, I’d buy one.

        • I hear you. I’ve been focused on diesel (biodiesel) vehicles for years and would love to own a simple and less expensive diesel SUV in place of my Honda Pilot. We’ve owned several small diesels, VW TDIs (hence the TDIClub and CinciTDI links), and I currently drive my 1982 Mercedes Benz 300D Turbodiesel as a daily driver as long as it’s not too cold or salt is not on the road. 😉

          • Jason Carpp

            So would I. My current car is a Toyota Corolla. It’s a good car as Toyotas are, but I’ve always preferred trucks and SUVs. Unfortunately, there aren’t any made by Toyota that are offered with diesel powered engines.

          • Yup … a Toyota with a diesel would be nice. We tend to put a lot of mile on our cars and have owned a bunch of Toyota cars and SUVs. My two favorites were back to back 4Runners in the 1990s and certainly can’t complain about my wife’s well worn and re-ended ’98 RAV4 with 260,000 miles. I has seen better days but like a Timex, keeps on ticking.

            http://mydesultoryblog.com/2011/07/doing-a-little-re-bending-on-the-toyota-rav4/

          • Jason Carpp

            My first SUV was a Toyota 4Runner. I liked everything about the vehicle except its fuel economy. It had the performance of a diesel vehicle, but its fuel economy was like that of a gasoline powered V8.

          • My 1994 was a 4 cylinder with a 5 speed manual and the gas mileage wasn’t anything to write home about … not a rocket either. The second was a 1996 with a 6-cylinder and 5 speed. Not really all that much better fuel economy. The ’98 RAV4 is a 4-cylinder and 5sp manual 4WD … only about 22 mpg at best, which is about the same on my Honda Pilot until recently (needs plugs).

            http://www.fuelly.com/driver/richc/pilot

          • Jason Carpp

            That’s crazy. You’d think, given that the EPA wants us to drive more fuel efficient cars, that they’d allow more diesel powered cars and trucks to be offered to the public.

          • Jason Carpp

            My first SUV was a 1992 Toyota 4Runner. I believe it had 90k original miles. It had automatic transmission, which may have contributed to its sluggish acceleration and poor fuel economy.

          • My ’94 was under powered, but compared to previous “dogs” it wasn’t a big deal, this from a guy who drive a 1982 Mercedes Benz 300D … not the quickest car off the line! 😉

          • Jason Carpp

            I liked everything about it. People blame the SUV for being dangerous to handle, and dogs to drive. I disagree. They can be dangerous if not handled correctly, but if driven carefully, and you’re buckled in, you should be perfectly safe. Even if you do have an accident, I found it to be safer than a small car, like a Toyota Corolla. I’ve never driven a Mercedes-Benz 300D.

  • Jason Carpp

    I’ve never been a fan of the hybrid and electric cars you see on the road today. I’d prefer either gas or diesel cars and trucks. My least favourite is the Prius and Prius C. I have a friend who owns a Prius, and I got to ride in it, and found it quite comfortable for its size. That doesn’t mean that I’d buy one. I think they’re uglier than s___. I’d be embarrassed to be seen with the car. The same goes for the Nissan Leaf. I got to sit in the driver’s seat and it was quite comfortable. I just didn’t like how it looked.

    • I’m pretty much in agreement Jason. I enjoyed my time with a Prius and found it perfectly satisfactory. I drove like the “appliance” that it is … but don’t think I can get excited about it. Show me a small “good looking” hybrid linked to an efficient diesel engine and I might change my tune. Frankly, I was shocked how much I enjoyed driving the Chevy Volt after all the negative hype … I think “that” tech tied to a small diesel makes the most sense.

      • Jason Carpp

        I totally agree. I’d also like to see more hybrid diesel vehicles. I believe it is possible to do. A little more expensive, perhaps, but possible. 🙂

        • What I don’t understand is “why” they need to be all that much more expensive? I think we accept the price differential, but not sure it needs to be all that much higher.

          • Jason Carpp

            I totally agree. I’d buy a Toyota Land Cruiser if it were available with a diesel/electric hybrid engine.

          • Jason Carpp

            I agree. What’s always bothered me is how much diesel fuel costs to fill. In some parts of the country, it costs about $4 per gallon.

          • Well blame the Govt … they tax diesel higher than gasoline and because the EPA unfairly measures pollutants for diesel (in my opinion) compared to gasoline (maybe U.S. car and oil lobbyist have something to do with this too?) In Europe it is the opposite. They encourage diesel and discourage gasoline playing the same punitive tax game. If the field was truly fair, the advantages of diesel and blends of biodiesel would really be a help to the U.S.

            That said, since fracking, I think our country should be encouraging more natural gas infrastructure. It is already piped to most of the country and is clean, cheap and domestically abundant. Having an efficient NG fuel cell or small natural gas internal combustion engine connected to Chevy Volt style technology makes a lot of sense.

          • Jason Carpp

            I’ll never understood why our USEPA does that. I’m not against clean air, you’d have to be crazy not to. I just don’t like govt. deciding what makes for clean emissions and what doesn’t.

            I agree with you about more natural gas infrastructure. I think we should encourage our cars to be run on natural gas, instead of petroleum based gasoline. For cars and most motorised transportation, we’d have natural gas, if one wants, or needs, we also have the option of diesel. What’s your opinion about that? 🙂

  • Jason Carpp

    I just watched the Motorweek video road test of the Jeep Liberty CRD, and while I agree, that the cost of filling up on diesel fuel would be enough to dissuade most drivers from buying diesel-powered trucks and light SUVs, the price isn’t the same everywhere you go. Where I live, Gig Harbor, Washington, the price for diesel is $3.55 per gallon. In some places, it may cost more than that. In some places, it may cost less. How crazy is that? I’d still buy a CRD engine, if not for the Liberty, how about for the classic XJ Cherokee?

    • I’ve always loved Jeeps … and wanted a CJ5 when I was a kid, but it wasn’t until I learned to drive a 4×4 off-road up a mountain in Alaska that I learned to truly appreciate them. Realistically they aren’t the most functional for 99% paved road driving that I do now … although can’t wait to test drive the new 2014 Grand Cherokee with the new CRD diesel. I suspect it will be overpriced just like the last attempt using the Mercedes diesel.
      http://mydesultoryblog.com/2007/08/the-2007-jeep-grand-cherokee-30l-crd/

      Side note, I almost moved to your neck of the woods and made an offer on a home overlooking Quartermaster Harbor on Vashon Island back in the 1990s. 🙂

      • Jason Carpp

        I’ve always liked trucks and SUVs. I like pre-1996 Cherokee because the steering wheel doesn’t have that big padding in the middle of the steering wheel called an “air bag”. Where do you live currently? I live in Gig Harbor. 🙂

        • Cincinnati, Ohio

          • Jason Carpp

            I’ve never visited there. What prevented you from moving to Washington state?

          • Combination of things. Dotcom work opportunity was risky along with cost of living difference. Had family here in Ohio and wasn’t really ready to make a big change going that far west at the time. In the end, we made the right call.

          • Jason Carpp

            That makes sense. I’ve always lived in Washington state, and I just recently (September) landed a job in Gig Harbor, where I live. Even if I wanted to move somewhere else, I couldn’t afford the money to do that.

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