2011 VW Jetta: the car has been engineered by accountants

Posted By on September 13, 2010

WSJ_2011VWJettaDanNeil10091 In this weekend’s WSJ, Dan Neil’s full page article on the 2011 Volkswagen Jetta highlighted design changes, some for “for pedestrian safety.” (see video below) The “safety” comments apply to more brands than the Volkswagen as design changes will apply to all new vehicle designs.  Personally I see the “pedestrian impact” even more critical since EVs and whisper quiet engine-off electric hybrids become more common on our roads.

Unfortunately his article also wasn’t complementary to VW in their plan to increase U.S. market share. In lowering the Jetta’s  base price (2011 Jetta’s base is $2000 cheaper than 2010), the traditionally “well equipped” features associated with past Jetta models are lacking – see a previous post. (TDI shoppers note: diesel models will have higher level of standard equipment)

For buyers, this will mean that the Jetta might become less of a driver’s car and more of a“people’s car” something traditional VW enthusiasts remember well.

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Comments

  • VWDEALER IN TX

    Rich,

    I’ve been enjoying your Volkswagen oriented feeds for about a year and have to admit that I’m concerned that adding another Rabbit type vehicle that has no margin will be bad for the company. We struggled as salepeople when VW tries to commoditize their cars and in the end get a blackeye by selling junk. Unfortunately I look as if I’m trying to bait and switch whenever I tell customers that they should spend a $1000 more to get the car they want. Keep up the great blog.

    Jim

  • VWDEALER IN TX

    Rich,

    I’ve been enjoying your Volkswagen oriented feeds for about a year and have to admit that I’m concerned that adding another Rabbit type vehicle that has no margin will be bad for the company. We struggled as salepeople when VW tries to commoditize their cars and in the end get a blackeye by selling junk. Unfortunately I look as if I’m trying to bait and switch whenever I tell customers that they should spend a $1000 more to get the car they want. Keep up the great blog.

    Jim

  • http://richcorbett.us RichC

    Thanks for the comment Jim. Good point about the Rabbit.

  • http://richcorbett.us RichC

    Thanks for the comment Jim. Good point about the Rabbit.

  • http://bilikfamily.com/ Scott

    My favorite snark quote from the article:

    our Jetta [...] was saddled with some of the cruelest, cheapest plastic dash and door materials I’ve seen in years. What an awful way for petrochemicals to die! The innards of this thing make a Chevy Cruze look like a Maybach.

    (Did I mention I saw a Maybach this summer?)

  • http://bilikfamily.com/ Scott

    My favorite snark quote from the article:

    our Jetta [...] was saddled with some of the cruelest, cheapest plastic dash and door materials I’ve seen in years. What an awful way for petrochemicals to die! The innards of this thing make a Chevy Cruze look like a Maybach.

    (Did I mention I saw a Maybach this summer?)

  • http://richcorbett.us RichC

    Scott: I was interested in checking out the new Jetta, but hearing comments like that have me thinking that I might as well look elsewhere? Let’s hope the new VWs are not as bad as what Mr. Neil makes them out to be.

  • http://richcorbett.us RichC

    Scott: I was interested in checking out the new Jetta, but hearing comments like that have me thinking that I might as well look elsewhere? Let’s hope the new VWs are not as bad as what Mr. Neil makes them out to be.

  • Cdn VW Dealer

    I just spent a day with the NEW Jetta, driving it through courses with the competitors cars along with it. The Jetta still blows away a Civic, Mazda 3 and the Corolla to name a few. in all ways..handeling,fit and finish,braking,and warranty.
    Now..yes we now do offer cheaper models of the Jetta. But for our repeat customes,They will not be disappointed in our higher end models,and the price is still lower, they still have the same suspention..engines..and more features then our 2010′s offered.
    So before anyone panics, drive one! you will see ..it is still a VW. There are a few things that are not there anymore..but it’s not the end of the world..big deal..back to a prop rod under the hood..not a shock…and no shocks on the trunk lid.
    I know the dash is plastic now…but after driving one..it didn’t matter, still a much quieter car then the competition. and I never slept on the dash so the paded part isn’t as big of a deal as some make it out to be.
    Enough said…Drive one! Then make a comment!

  • Cdn VW Dealer

    I just spent a day with the NEW Jetta, driving it through courses with the competitors cars along with it. The Jetta still blows away a Civic, Mazda 3 and the Corolla to name a few. in all ways..handeling,fit and finish,braking,and warranty.
    Now..yes we now do offer cheaper models of the Jetta. But for our repeat customes,They will not be disappointed in our higher end models,and the price is still lower, they still have the same suspention..engines..and more features then our 2010′s offered.
    So before anyone panics, drive one! you will see ..it is still a VW. There are a few things that are not there anymore..but it’s not the end of the world..big deal..back to a prop rod under the hood..not a shock…and no shocks on the trunk lid.
    I know the dash is plastic now…but after driving one..it didn’t matter, still a much quieter car then the competition. and I never slept on the dash so the paded part isn’t as big of a deal as some make it out to be.
    Enough said…Drive one! Then make a comment!

  • 4motional rescue

    VW has completely alienated their core market with this car. They should recall the 2011 Jetta and promptly issue an apology.

  • http://richc.myarchive.us RichC

    I was offended too, but after personally sitting in one of them found it better than expected. I’d still recommend avoiding the base model. Another negative is going to be seeing too many on the road and a loss of the slight German car ‘prestige.’ I’m not sure the ‘core market’ wants to see a Jetta in every other driveway?

  • Anonymous

    Unfortunately, VW is repositioning the brand down market. I just bought a new 2011 GTI (which I love) because it stood out as a high quality piece of German engineering at a very affordable price (at 25,000, it is a truly fine car). I’ve driven Mercedes-Benz for many years, and I was amazed at the value offered in the VW GTI. Now, VW is cheapening their image by offering a substandard 2011 Jetta to compete with Toyota. I just test drove the new Jetta today, and it is so bad that I can’t even explain. My perception of the Volkwagen brand has now been altered. I just feel that in the long run, the new Jetta will cause more damage than good to the VW name. While VW is certainly not a luxury brand, it is still considered my many to be a “premium” brand. I think VW is making a big mistake with their new strategy. Futhermore, I think VW’s design team has become a bit too consumer-centric. Don’t get me wrong; listening to the market is certainly important. It’s just that collecting informatioin from the market cannot be taken too literally when it comes to design. Consumers are not car designers. My feeling is that designers should focus on creating products that the market doesn’t even know thay want yet. Companies like Apple understand this very well. Henry Ford once said ” If I’d asked the market what they wanted, they would have asked for a faster horse”. The 2011 Jetta looks like it was deigned by consensus, rather than a design team. The result? A car which has a striking resemblance to a 2005 Camry.

  • http://richc.myarchive.us RichC

    Having owned a few VWs … I admit to be disappointed with the current downscaled Jetta. Although I’m holding out my final judgment until I drive the 2011 TDI, I’m frustrated with the entire ‘cheapening’ process in order to sell more vehicles. Shortsightedness in my opinion.

  • Abc123

    Suspension is NOT the same… It has freakin drum breaks… `When you nudge the doors from the inside the cheap plastic bends inwords… bad quality car…

  • http://richc.myarchive.us RichC

    What I’m hearing is disappointing. I understand that VW wants to sell a lot of “boxes” in the U.S. … but I’m not sure most of us who see the pre-2011 VWs as a notch above an “econobox” are happy with the mass marketing approach. Sure they’ll sell more cars with a cheaper price an shaving off initially less noticed items, but in the long run it will turn current Volkswagen advocates against the company.

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